Interesting Article on Tithing - click here

Do you tithe?

Please send your comments on tithing and/or giving in generalin the face of what is going on economically in our country and the world.

Thanks to Paul Grabill for the pointer to this article in USA Today.

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Pastor Kitner

Surgery Date Scheduled

I had the appointment with the cancer surgeon Dr. Wolfgang Schaurt at the UPMC Presbyterian Hospital Sept. 29. As a result of this visit and re-examination for the cancer to be removed from my body we have arranged for this to be done on October 29 because the doctor will be away for about a week and a half or two weeks. I will have all the preliminary blood tests done and be ready for this operation, with preaching substitutes in place for several weeks during the scheduled recovery time.

Keep this whole senerio in prayer along with those that are going to be involved with any phase of the operation and recovery. Only those that are ordained by the Lord should be involved and no one that should not be involved.

Isaiah 54:17 still prevails over it all.

Blessings on Ya!
Pastor Charles Kitner

Cancer Surgeon Appointment Made

Monday September 29, 2008 I have an appointment with the surgeon, Dr Wolfgang Schaurt, that I originally talked with before I needed to have heart surgery. He will examine me and we will go forward from there with the removal of what is there of the cancer mass (if it is there) that was already treated with radiation and chemo.
Isaiah 54:17 is still in effect for my life as given to me before I knew that I had all this going on in my body.


Isaiah 54:17 (NIV) 17 no weapon forged against you will prevail, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me,” declares the LORD.


Blessings on Ya!
Keep me in prayer - thanks I knew you would!
Pastor Kitner

History in Black and White - click here

Please take the time to watch this powerful history lesson...
Video - American History in Black & White by David Barton


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Pastor Kitner

Brooke Barrettsmith: Beyond Stress, Beyond Idol - Click here

Beyond Stress, Beyond Idol
by Todd Hertz
posted 09/15/08
Most would say that you have to have a lot of confidence to try out for a national TV show like American Idol. And most would also say that you have to become a top 12 finalist on Idol to earn a lucrative recording contract. Brooke Barrettsmith proves both assumptions wrong. As a teenager, she struggled with panic attacks throughout her high school years.-----------
For the full story click on the title above:

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Pastor Kitner

Apostles Today? - click here

Apostles Today?
Rediscovering the gift that leaves churches and well-connected pastors in its wake.
by Skye Jethani


We all know about the apostles named Peter, Paul, and John, but have you ever heard of Andronicus or Junia? Some are surprised to discover that the New Testament identifies more apostles than the twelve men who followed Jesus around Galilee. That fact raises some interesting, and even controversial, questions. What exactly is an apostle, what does the gift of apostleship look like, and how should we understand an apostle's role today?

Various theological streams and ecclesiastical traditions hold opposing views on apostleship. Some believe the gift was limited to the twelve disciples closest to Christ. Others contend that apostleship flourished during the foundational era of the church but is no longer active today. On the other end are those who believe modern apostles exist and possess the same authority as the Apostles who penned the New Testament.

Somewhere in the middle are those who affirm the gift's activity today but in a more generic capacity. The word literally means "sent one," a designation that may be applied to many believers. But the middle-ground viewpoint acknowledges there is a difference between being gifted as an apostle (little "a") and possessing the authority of an Apostle (capital "A")._ _ _ _ _ _ _

Check out the whole article at the link above....

Copyright © 2008 by the author or Christianity Today International/Leadership Journal.
Click here for reprint information on Leadership Journal.
Spring 2008, Vol. XXIX, No. 2, Page 37

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Pastor Kitner

How Wall Street Lied to Its Computers!

What has happened to the financial market in these last few weeks?
Check out the article at the above link.


Pastor Kitner

Questions of the Decade

Questions of the Decade

When I preach to people in their twenties, I am aware that they are asking questions such as:

What makes me different from my family of origin or the people around me?

In what direction am I going to point my life in order to pay my way through life?

Am I lovable and am I capable of loving?

Around what will I center my life?

Those in their thirties tend to have accumulated serious long-range responsibilities: spouses, babies, home mortgages, and serious income needs. Suddenly life becomes overrun with responsibilities. Time and priorities become important. Fatigue and stress levels rise. The questions shift to:

How can I get done all of these things for which I am responsible?

Why do I have so many self-doubts?

Why is my spiritual center so confused?

What happened to all the fun I used to have?

Why haven't I resolved all my sin problems?

Why is there so little time for friendships?

For people in their forties, the questions do not get any easier. Now they are asking:

Why are some of my peers doing better than me?

Why am I so often disappointed in myself, in others?

Why isn't my faith deeper?

Why is my marriage less than dazzling?

Why do I yearn to go back to the carefree days of my youth?

Should I scale back some of my dreams?

Why do I no longer feel attractive?

People in their fifties are asking:

Do these young people think I'm obsolete?

Why is my body becoming increasingly unreliable?

Why are so few of my friendships nourishing?

What do my spouse and I have in common now that the children are leaving?

Does this marriage of mine offer any intimacy at all?

Why is my job no longer a satisfying experience?

Are the best years of life over?

Do I have anything of value to give any longer?

Those in their sixties ask:

How long can I keep on doing the things that define me?

Why do my peers look so much older than me?

What does it mean to grow old?

How do I deal with angers and resentments that I've never resolved?

Why do my friends and I talk so much about death and dying?

Those in their seventies and above have questions such as:

Does anyone around here know who I once was?

How do I cope with all this increasing weakness around me?

How many years do I have left?

How long can I maintain my independence and my dignity?

When I die, how will it happen?

What about all these things I intended to do (and be) and never got around to?


Can a sermon speak to these issues? For many listeners, sermons that ignore these questions will not be credible.

It is around matters like these, which change through the years, that the preacher can speak into the fears, the failures and regrets, the longings and opportunities, and bring words of hope and clarity, touching a life with Christ's presence.—G.M.

It's not just living your words, it's knowing the lives of those you're speaking to.
by Gordon MacDonald

Copyright © 2007 by the author or Christianity Today International/Leadership Journal.
Summer 2007, Vol. XXVIII, No. 3, Page 48

Doctor Visit Updates

Wednesday 9/10/08 and Monday 9/15/08 I had doctor appointments. The first one was with the cardiologist. He examined me and gave me a good report and said I could now be released to have the cancer removed from my body and that he would fax a letter of release to do so to the doctor in Pittsburgh, Pa. Dr. Wolfgang Schrauet. He also gave me a new appointment for September of 2009 which is in a year from the time of our first appointment after surgery.

I then went to the surgeon that did my open-heart surgery. He examined me asked some questions and said that he also releases me to have the cancer removed. He said, after the exam, that it would not be necessary for me to see him again unless something developed with the areas involved with the surgery. Infection of any type etc. So I am healing up very well indeed! PTL! He has refered me for Cardiology Rehab at Latrobe Hospital facility if I was able to go or wanted to go afterward.

I have called the office of the surgeon in Pittsburgh and the nurse there said she would talk with Dr. Schrauet and get back to me in the next couple of days. So that ball is rolling now and I will keep everyone informed as I get the information concerning the next phase of this total cure for my body.

Pastor Charles Kitner

Trust God No Matter What! - click here

This morning’s headlines on the Lehman Brothers bankruptcy and Merrill Lynch buyout have sent stocks plummeting.

Special Video Interview

A sit down and chat interview with Sherry Moorhead. She’s the Director of Volunteers at the NewSpring Anderson campus. Here’s what she had to share about volunteer ministry and more.




Check out Tony Morgan Live blogsite where I got this from. Click here

Pastor Kitner

Advertisers to be "scolded" ???

Stuck in Neutral
By Scott Harrup | September 9, 2008

The New York Times reported today that the European Parliament has voted 504 to 110 to “scold advertisers for ‘sexual stereotyping,’ adopting a nonbinding report that seeks to prod the industry to change the way it depicts men and women.” The committee report influencing the vote, the Times noted, claimed stereotypes in advertising can “straightjacket women, men, girls and boys by restricting individuals to predetermined and artificial roles that are often degrading, humiliating and dumbed-down for both sexes.”

Some controls of advertising make sense. No one should be degraded or humiliated, and the article cited one ad campaign promoted violence against women. But the phrase that sticks out to me is the more general fear of “restricting individuals to predetermined and artificial roles.”

As a parent raising a daughter and two sons, I know there are very real differences naturally characteristic of girls and boys. And I should rephrase that last sentence. As a father, I recognize those differences from a perspective distinct from that of Jodie’s motherly point of view.

There are innumerable ways in which Lindsay moves along life’s path differently from Connor and Austin. And she wouldn’t want it any other way. None of my children feel “straightjacketed” or “restricted” as they grow into more mature expressions of feminine and masculine traits.

Further, my kids have a healthy appreciation for the things that make Jodie and me different. They rely on me in ways they don’t rely on Jodie, and vice versa.

Does this mean things are so rigid in our home that Jodie never takes out the trash and I refuse to run a vacuum or cook a meal? Absolutely not. Our children observe us helping each other without giving up one iota of our respective femininity or masculinity. And that’s how it should be.

So, here’s hoping the European Parliament won’t enact intrusive legislation to back up this currently nonbinding bit of silliness. As the French are fond of saying, “Vive la différence!”

Blessings on Ya!
Pastor Kitner

Convoy of Hope - click here

To help with disaster relief efforts where your money will be used properly click on the title above and check out the Convoy of Hope.

Blessings on ya!
Pastor Kitner

Medical Update on my heart operation

I go back to the cardiologist on Wednesday afternoon for my 6 week heart check up after my operation for a quad bypass. This doctor did my heart catherization and found the blockage in the main arteries at 95% and in several other arteries as well.

I also go back to my surgeon who did my open heart operation on 9-15-08 this coming Monday afternoon. He has to check out his handiwork and see how the Lord has healed me ahead of what is normal.

Keep me in prayer as I will have to, after being released from the current recovery situation, face the removal of the cancer mass from my rectum. That is unless the Lord removes it by His own removal touch. (this is the prefered way)

At least I have gotten a little settled down after having to wait the 6 to 8 weeks after heart surgery to even consider the other. The operation for the removal of the cancer couldn't be done until the heart was repaired and strong enough for me to survive the operation without having a heart attack on the operating table.

Isaiah 54:17 still is in affect for me....no weapon that is formed against me shall prosper...Praise the Lord who is Good All the Time

Blessings on Ya!
Pastor Kitner

Take a minute and ponder this.

Take a minute and ponder this.


I know everyone has a different opinion on the war and our current President. But, this article makes a lot of sense, Take 2 minutes, read it and give it some thought.
When electing the next President, the only decision you have to make is who you want sitting in that seat in the White House when? - not if -? WHEN we get hit again and millions of American lives are put at risk!
This is from: 'You ain't gonna like losing.'
Author unknown.

President Bush did make a bad mistake in the war on terrorism. But the mistake was not his decision to go to war in Iraq. Bush's mistake came in his belief that this country is the same one his father fought for in WWII. It is not. Back then, they had just come out of a vicious depression. The country was steeled by the hardship of that depression, but they still believed fervently in this country. They knew that the people had elected their leaders, so it was the people's duty to back those leaders.
Therefore, when the war broke out the people came together, rallied behind, and stuck with their leaders, whether they had voted for them or not or whether the war was going badly or not.
And war was just as distasteful and the anguish just as great then as it is today. Often there were more casualties in one day in WWII than we have had in the entire Iraq war. But that did not matter. The people stuck with the President because it was their patriotic duty. Americans put aside their differences in WWII and worked together to win that war.
Everyone from every strata of society,from young to old pitched in. Small children pulled little wagons around to gather scrap metal for the war effort. Grade school students saved their pennies to buy stamps for war bonds to help the effort.
Men who were too old or medically 4F lied about their age or condition trying their best to join the military.
Women doubled their work to keep things going at home. Harsh rationing of everything from gasoline to soap, to butter was imposed, yet there was very little complaining.
You never heard prominent people on the radio belittling the President. Interestingly enough in those days there were no fat cat actors and entertainers who ran off to visit and fawn over dictators of hostile countries and complain to them about our President. Instead, they made upbeat films and entertained our troops to help the troops' morale. And a bunch even enlisted.
And imagine this: Teachers in schools actually started the day off with a Pledge of Allegiance, and with prayers for our country and our troops!
Back then, no newspaper would have dared point out certain weak spots in our cities where bombs could be set off to cause the maximum damage. No newspaper would have dared complain about what we were doing to catch spies. A newspaper would have been laughed out of existence if it had complained that German or Japanese soldiers were being 'tortured' by being forced to wear women's underwear, or subjected to interrogation by a woman, or being scared by a dog or did not have air conditioning.
There were a lot of things different back then. We were not subjected to a constant bombardment of pornography, perversion and promiscuity in movies or on radio. We did not have legions of crack heads, dope pushers and armed gangs roaming our streets.
No, President Bush did not make a mistake in his handling of terrorism. He made the mistake of believing that we still had the courage and fortitude of our fathers. He believed that this was still the country that our fathers fought so dearly to preserve.
It is not the same country. It is now a cross between Sodom and Gomorra and the land of Oz. We did unite for a short while after 9/11, but our attitude changed when we found out that defending our country would require some sacrifices.
We are in great danger. The terrorists are fanatic Muslims. They believe that it is okay, even their duty, to kill anyone who will not convert to Islam. It has been estimated that about one third or over three hundred million Muslims are sympathetic to the terrorists cause... Hitler and Tojo combined did not have nearly that many potential recruits. So... We either win it - or lose it - and you ain't gonna like losing.
America is not at war. The military is at war.
America is at the mall, or watching the movie stars.

(Remember Obama said in his book 'Audacity of Hope', 'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction'.....what better place for the Muslins to control our country, than in the office of the President of USA .?

Think about it!
Pastor Kitner

Is this anyway to do church? - click here

Drive thru church.

More Coverage Please! -- click here

Better coverage is needed for the Republican National Convention.

MLK Jr. check this out - Very Interesting

Here is an article about why Martin Luther King Jr. was a republican.